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- By MK25toLife Date 2008-03-20 04:42
Pardon my ignorance, I'm just trying to figure out what is the difference b/w the different models.  They look similar to me but obviously I know there are differences within the dials and bezels, anything else?  Thanks in advance!
Parent By jeg247 Date 2008-03-20 09:08
In Summary: Submariner is presure proof to 1000ft, comes in a "date" model and traditional "no date".  A seadweller has a special gas escape oneway valve that makes it presure proof to 4000ft.  Both are professional divers watches with divers time lapes bezels.  A GMT Master II is designed to be a pilots/travelers watch. All GMT Masters are date models.  The bezel is not a time lapes, rather a 24 hour rotating bezel that when checked against the watches 24 hour arrow hand will indecate military time (when bezel is in the neutral postsion) or a second time zone when rotated accordingly.  The GMT Master II's 12 hour hand has a quick jump ability via the crown and can thus indicate a thrid time zone if need be.  (Older GMT Masters don't have this "12 hour jump hand"). 
Parent By harb (Moderator) Date 2008-03-20 09:11 Edited 2008-03-20 09:27
Submariner and Sea-Dweller: Both are diving watches; the Sub is water-resistant to 300m, the SD to 1000m (and has helium escape valve in the side of its case). The Sub has the magnifying cyclops on the crystal (although there is a no-date version of the Sub which, naturally, does not have the cyclops), the SD does not. The SD case is thicker than the Sub's. Both use the 3135 calibre. (The LV Sub has a green bezel and Maxi-Dial)

The GMT-II is a multiple timezone watch, with the ability to track 3 different timezones using the normal hour hand, the 24-hour arrow hand, and the bezel. It has recently been updated to have a more substantial case, larger markers on the Maxi-dial, a ceramic bezel, and a larger Triplock crown (like the Sub/SD) although is rated to 100m water-resistance. This runs the 3186 calibre. The older version of the GMT-II had a thinner case, smaller dial markers and smaller Twinlock crown.

These are the main obvious differences that are immediately obvious (with respect to the steel versions of these watches). However, there are many other differences between the watches which are known to the enthusiast.

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Parent - By Suhail Date 2008-03-20 09:14
The same difference that there is in a Submarine and a Plane ;-)

I think the chaps have done a good job explaining above :-)
History will be kind to me , for I intend to write it.
Parent - By NickIslander Date 2008-03-20 10:08
"The same difference that there is in a Submarine and a Plane"

More or less no difference then....... :-)

The USN Cormorant....

Al'eau, c'est l'heure
Parent - By harb (Moderator) Date 2008-03-20 10:38
Good ol' Lockheed Skunk Works"...:-)
Parent By NickIslander Date 2008-03-20 11:27
This one looks like the result of a few bits left over from other projects - and the need to use up some money by the end of the financial year, to justify asking for more next year.

Whoops, giving away too much personal info here :-) :-)
Al'eau, c'est l'heure
Parent By sub Date 2008-03-20 12:24
SUBMARINER
1. No date
2. Has old style end links & divers extension
3. Water Resistant to 300m / 1000 ft
4. Retains holes in lugs
5. Bracelet Sides and Clasp are Brushed
6. Height = 12.8mm
7. Weight = 130 grams

SUBMARINER DATE
1. Solid End Links
2. "O" Style Divers Extension
3. Water Resistant to 300m / 1000 ft
4. Has Cyclops over Date
5. Bracelet Sides and Clasp are Brushed
6. Bracelet has 1/2 link
7. Height = 13mm
8. Weight = 135 grams
9. "LV" Version has Green Bezel and "Maxi Dial" with larger hands

SEA DWELLER
1. Solid End Links
2. "O" Style Divers Extension
3. 1mm Smaller Dial Diameter than Submariner or Sub Date
4. Crystal is 1mm thicker than Submariner or Sub Date
5. Thicker Bezel than Submariner or Sub Date
6. HE Release Valve on side of case
7. Caseback Engraving
8. Water Resistant to 1220m / 4000 ft
9. Does not have cyclops over Date
10. Bracelet Sides and Clasp are Polished
11. Height = 14.65mm
12. Weight = 147 grams
John
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