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learningtofly
07-17-2010, 06:06 AM
Anyway, bought myself (for not a lot of money, in fact) another weekend special - a Laco Pilot B Flieger (automatic Miyota, 42mm diameter, 12mm height, 50 mm w/r, really nice strap). What do you reckon (pictures courtesy of the seller on TZ)?

andypandy
07-18-2010, 04:34 AM
I like it, it' s kind of quirky looking but .....so am I ! It' a thumbs up from me.

learningtofly
07-18-2010, 05:15 AM
I like it, it' s kind of quirky looking but .....so am I ! It' a thumbs up from me.

You and me both :)

Thanks!

harb
07-19-2010, 12:46 PM
Laco are one of the five original makers of the pilot's watch for the German Luftwaffe in WW2 - the others being made by IWC, A. Lange & Söhne, Stowa and Wempe.

What size is this one, Tony?

Actually, this reminded me of a recent advert for IWC:

http://www.newturfers.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2780&d=1279557776

The Pilot's Watch Hand-Wound. Just like the original from 1936 you never owned because in those days your wrist was still a bit too small

.....and below the caption is an image of a spermatozoon.

Which got me thinking...

Shouldn't that have read:
"Just like the original from 1936 you never owned because you were not a Nazi Luftwaffe pilot on your way to bomb London or Coventry or Glasgow"...?

It's all very well companies being proud of their histories, eg IWC, and Panerai with their mini-sub commandos...but we probably shouldn't totally forget which side they were on before boasting of their historical credentials...http://www.laingswatchclub.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

Saying that, if I wanted a pilot's watch it'd have to be IWC...
And I wouldn't be averse to Lange, either, who also made Observatory watches for the Luftwaffe...

So...not hypocracy...just an interesting/amusing observation on the advert!

learningtofly
07-19-2010, 01:44 PM
Laco are one of the five original makers of the pilot's watch for the German Luftwaffe in WW2 - the others being made by IWC, A. Lange & Söhne, Stowa and Wempe.

What size is this one, Tony?

Actually, this reminded me of a recent advert for IWC:

http://www.newturfers.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2780&d=1279557776

The Pilot's Watch Hand-Wound. Just like the original from 1936 you never owned because in those days your wrist was still a bit too small

.....and below the caption is an image of a spermatozoon.

Which got me thinking...

Shouldn't that have read:
"Just like the original from 1936 you never owned because you were not a Nazi Luftwaffe pilot on your way to bomb London or Coventry or Glasgow"...?

It's all very well companies being proud of their histories, eg IWC, and Panerai with their mini-sub commandos...but we probably shouldn't totally forget which side they were on before boasting of their historical credentials...http://www.laingswatchclub.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

Saying that, if I wanted a pilot's watch it'd have to be IWC...
And I wouldn't be averse to Lange, either, who also made Observatory watches for the Luftwaffe...

So...not hypocracy...just an interesting/amusing observation on the advert!
Hmmm... and yes, interesting stuff. It's a 42mm, harb, so it'll be the largest watch I've had on my wrist. Here's hoping...

A.I.
07-19-2010, 01:53 PM
Shouldn't that have read:
"Just like the original from 1936 you never owned because you were not a Nazi Luftwaffe pilot on your way to bomb London or Coventry or Glasgow"...?

It's all very well companies being proud of their histories, eg IWC, and Panerai with their mini-sub commandos...but we probably shouldn't totally forget which side they were on before boasting of their historical credentials...http://www.laingswatchclub.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

Saying that, if I wanted a pilot's watch it'd have to be IWC...
And I wouldn't be averse to Lange, either, who also made Observatory watches for the Luftwaffe...

So...not hypocracy...just an interesting/amusing observation on the advert!

I'm with you 100% here Harb. Long memories are a very common attribute at Clydebank in Glasgow.

learningtofly
07-19-2010, 02:26 PM
It's interesting that there's such a demand for military style watches, isn't it? Regardless of issues around heritage, they have something of a cult following (which seems to encompass pretty much all types of peeps).

Obviously, I'll wear mine when I'm learning to fly ;)

harb
07-20-2010, 04:00 AM
Hmmm... and yes, interesting stuff. It's a 42mm, harb, so it'll be the largest watch I've had on my wrist. Here's hoping...

A decently wearable size.

If I were buying a budget pilot's watch it'd be either Laco or Stowa because of their historical authenticity (notwithstanding what I posted, above).

What put you on to this brand, Tony? Did you know their heritage?

learningtofly
07-20-2010, 07:54 AM
A decently wearable size.

If I were buying a budget pilot's watch it'd be either Laco or Stowa because of their historical authenticity (notwithstanding what I posted, above).

What put you on to this brand, Tony? Did you know their heritage?

Actually, I started looking at Hamilton as they're pretty popular in the US and there are a couple I like: then I saw one or two Stowas that piqued my interest. I didn't know much about Laco, but this one popped up for sale and it was only then that I looked into them at all.

I'm not sure what I'll think of it on, but at £175 it doesn't really matter if I only wear it occasionally... or I could even flip it if I don't like the look of it on my wrist.

I think I'll enjoy wearing it, though.

learningtofly
07-20-2010, 12:03 PM
This is a Glashutte Original Senator Navigator - I obviously picked up the wrong one, didn't I?

harb
07-20-2010, 12:17 PM
...I obviously picked up the wrong one, didn't I?

Well, not if you wanted to spend £175.

learningtofly
07-20-2010, 02:33 PM
Well, not if you wanted to spend £175.

Valid point, harb :)

learningtofly
07-21-2010, 06:27 AM
Well, I tried this on for the first time yesterday. It's actually very nice, but the pilot-style strap (which kind of folds over on itself a a couple of times) is simply too bulky for my wrist.

It's virtually new, and completely unmarked, so my choices seem to be:


Try it on some other straps (e.g. I have a black Nato and a black Hirsch alligator that might look nice) and wear if for a while; or
Justc flip it whilst it's still in prisitne/new condition

Anyone want to help me make up my mind? It's a shame, because the strap it came on is absolutely perfect for it.

:confused:

harb
07-21-2010, 06:40 AM
Well, I tried this on for the first time yesterday. It's actually very nice, but the pilot-style strap (which kind of folds over on itself a a couple of times) is simply too bulky for my wrist.


I'd try it on some other straps.
Or you could buy a pilot-style strap (ie with the 2 rivets) but in a more standard configuation which might be more suitable.

learningtofly
07-21-2010, 06:42 AM
I'd try it on some other straps.
Or you could buy a pilot-style strap (ie with the 2 rivets) but in a more standard configuation which might be more suitable.

Nervous as I am about your advice, harb (;)), I think you're right. I'm trying to recall who makes those riveted straps - is it Eddie?

stoneyloon
07-21-2010, 07:29 AM
Eddie does the aviator straps in black and brown.;) You could try a Bund?

learningtofly
07-21-2010, 07:31 AM
Eddie does the aviator straps in black and brown.;) You could try a Bund?

I was just looking at them, coincidentally. The bunds remind me of when I was about 18, had hair past my shoulders (as opposed to ON my shoulders!) and wore desert boots with flared jeans.

Not sure if I want to go there again :p

stoneyloon
07-22-2010, 04:31 AM
I see Flipperitus has struck again!:D

learningtofly
07-22-2010, 04:33 AM
I see Flipperitus has struck again!:D

Sometimes you just know :)

learningtofly
07-22-2010, 02:28 PM
Too funny - cheers Adam :D

stoneyloon
07-23-2010, 02:21 AM
At that price, it would have been rude not to......